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Reform. what do you think is going to happen with the president. >> i think sooner or later we're going to have to address it and i don't know whoa this president's going to do and i don't know whoa his priorities are. but if he said we have to, quote, build a wall which i take in the most figurative sense, not literally build a wall but at the same time do immigration reform. verify, have documentation that proves you're in the country legally, enforce the border where we let stem students, science technology, engineer and imaginematic students stay in this country where you provide people lo...

Countries with this knowledge. shouldn't we be giving them visas to stay in america? >> i have supported some of that s.t.e.m. policy that's there. in two different times. but here's the situation they we have. i don't think we should be increasing the legal immigration in america. the last s.t.e.m. bill to come through the judiciary committee increased legal immigration by 650,000. these were not, by the way, s.t.e.m. students, just increased that number into a more catch-all phrase. so i think we should be capturing some of that talent that comes in. we should rearrange our immigration polic...