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Children in poverty. but minimum wage workers with two children, some of them do. we can address that, and by the way, right now the minimum wage is at the same real level it was in 1950. you can't tell me as a country that over 64 years, we can't have a higher minimum wage that allows more people to work with dignity. >> david, don't you find it interesting that the dogma post-clinton is pro-immigration at a time when we have a much larger supply of labor than we need, and pro free trade. even though we are supposed to be greenhouse gas oriented, we know where those jobs go. those jobs leave ...

In the house of representatives right now. john boehner is allowing the judiciary committee taking a piecemeal approach on immigration reform. we worked on two bills, one related to agricultural workers, the other related to interior and border security. both bills that many immigration advocates and democrats wouldn't find tenable, but it is at least a step toward immigration reform through the context of regular order in the judiciary committee process. next week i'm told we're going to confront two additional piecemeal bills. one will be on e-verification system that would require employers...

To focus on thinking the importation of workers is causes american wages to drop. that seems to be the point of the study. when you focus mostly on i.t., you have a tremendous surge in i.t. salaries with regard to the tech bubble. >> gregg: and then it burst? >> now we are comparing they haven't had the growth in i.t. salaries and blaming immigration it may be their base is faulty. >> gregg: i was reading through the studies and making a big deal how american companies aren't paying enough. these stem workers are going to where the bucks are? >> that is true. if you are highly talented and dol...

United states bringing it down, mathematics, students ranked in the top three performers, two points behind the leader. in reading, nearly 34% of the world's highest performers are american students and way ahead of japan and germany and the list goes on and on. patricia powell is founder of powell financial group. so look, here is all the time for president obama and others, is it true that the united states suffers a deficit of stem workers and students or is that just a myth? >> i don't think it's a myth but the study is challenging that belief. i think there are some problems with the stud...

Security. they will pay into obamacare. >> gregg: so somebody should say to microsoft pay more for your jobs, you won't have a deficit? >> that is probably true. >> so in stem workers, they receive the benefits of the education, sometimes funded by taxpayers. then they just decide to leave and essentially we are paying for skills then exported. how do we stop that? >> i think we would like them to stay, but i'm not sure it's the worst thing in the world that people have american ideas go back to where they came from. those ideas germinate in these countries. you have india with a burgeoning mi...