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Really watch the business end of the business. because, being a creative person, having all these dreams and all these ideas, is all well and good. but if you don't have that business acumen, and if you don't know how to balance the creative with the business, you end up with nothing. ♪ step by step oh, baby ♪ >> i think you have to realize that a brand is very much alive. and it's almost like a child, you have to nurture it, and you have to protect it. you have to continually ask yourself what the next step is. what the next material is. what the next color is. so for us to stay a step ah...

Contagion. it is something that cannot be contained. and that's what kathryn did with this boy. and i wish we could have this phenomenon universally applied so that we would actually rehabilitate these children and prevent these things from happening in the future. >> larry: also the mystery of childhood. right, kathryn? >> absolutely. >> larry: and what effect we have on children and we don't even know we have. >> you can't overstate how important those early years are. >> larry: and do you think, jayne, the legal system will catch up? >> i sure hope so, larry, and i'm going to keep trying to...

Contagion. it is something that cannot be contained. and that's what kathryn did with this boy. and i wish we could have this phenomenon universally applied so that we would actually rehabilitate these children and prevent these things from happening in the future. >> larry: also the mystery of childhood, right, kathryn? >> absolutely. >> larry: and what effect we have on children and we don't even know we have. >> you can't overstate how important those early years are. >> larry: and do you think, jayne, the legal system will catch up? >> i sure hope so, larry, and i'm going to keep trying to...

They say if you have loving kindness, if you have compassion, if you can make other people happy and if you have equinimity, that becomes a contagion. it is something that cannot be contained. that is what kathryn did with this boy. i wish we could have this phenomenon universally applied so that we would actually rehabilitate these children and prevent these things from happening in the future. >> larry: also the mystery of childhood, right, kathryn? >> absolutely. >> larry: and what affect we have on children and we don't even know we have. >> you can't overstate how important those early ye...

Other people happy and if you have equinimity, that becomes a contagion. it is something that cannot be contained. and that's what kathryn did with this boy. and i wish we could have this phenomenon universally applied so that we would actually rehabilitate these children and prevent these things from happening in the future. >> larry: also the mystery of childhood, right, kathryn? >> absolutely. >> larry: and what effect we have on children and we don't even know we have. >> you can't overstate how important those early years are. >> larry: and do you think, jayne, the legal system will catch...