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Part of syria. >> let me ask you about north korea now. yesterday the trump administration put north korea on the sponsor list of terrorism. they also announced some new sanctions today. in your view, are these measures meaningful? >> they're all good. they're amping up the pressure. none of these are a step function, all right? we're on a curve here. that's increasing the pressure on the north koreans. i think designating them a state sponsor of terror gives us additional tools for secondary sanctions that we can interfere in the banking system of those who would dare bank with the north kore...

The united states it's within striking distance. this comes a day after the kim jong-un regime successfully tested a mid-range ballistic missile which could theoretically carry nuclear warhead. joining me to talk about this is the former director of the cia and nsa in the george w. bush administration, retired four-star general michael hayden. appreciate you being here. >> thanks, jake. >> do you buy that this test means in the near future the north koreans will be able to hit the united states and regardless what should president trump be doing about this escalation? >> it depends on your def...

Saying and regroup. >> i imagine, at the same time, reassure the families they are not giving up. greg, i wonder if i could bring you in here. you made an interesting point that they may be refining the area of the pings which may be a reason then for them to reassess and start scanning the ocean floor somewhere else? >> yeah. i think, you know, this whole search is kind of a step function where you got, first, aircraft looking for floating debris and the debris is only going to float so long and disbursed over a wider area. that part of it is, i'm feeling a little -- a little like that, that ...

>> and because of the noise you heard ron mention some of the statistical anomalies. those have to do with seasonal adjustments and the fact that this has been the fourth warmest winter on record. there you go. if you look at those monthly numbers you can see the deceleration at the end of the graph. i gave this to your crack staff 25 minutes ago and i appreciate they were able to get it up so quickly. if you look at the quarterly data, though, and you smooth out those monthly blips month to month, there you see a very clear step function. >> right. >> we're adding 200,000 jobs a month, so the...

14%, and the chart, it's the whole way through. i think it's pretty clear, basic supply and demand economics, there's a demand for higher-skilled workers and not enough of a supply. if you then turn to wages, it's actually equally dramatic, another example of supply and demand economics, which is that over the last 30 years going back to 1979, at every step of the way, incomes after inflation for people without college degrees have gone down. and they've gone down in a step function 25% if you didn't have high school, and 9% if you even had some college. and only people with college or better ...