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What's the appropriate level of contributions for pensions. that should not be negotiable. it shouldn't be negotiable that people get step increases and c.o.l.a. increases. managers need to be able to manage their costs and that's exactly what we're proposing. >> i understand we're talking about sb-5 and i understand this thing went into effect. >> hold on. hold on. >> let me finish. >> this is my show. hang on a second. >> yeah, but you asked a question and i want to finish answering it. >> go ahead. >> what i want to say is i'm all in favor of people being able to talk, but there are some th...

Kinds of hard decisions the american people want us to make. you know, getting rid of the study on marijuana and malt liquor in combination seems like a small thing, but there are thousands of those. but more importantly, even the president's disingenuous statement that he's freezing federal pay while allowing these automatic step increases, you know, in the private sector you don't get generous pay increases just because another year went by and then cost of living on top of it. guess what? they do. and it represents half a billion dollars per year, plus obviously retirement benefits. you men...

Our budget deficit. >> well, you know, you and i have known each other about 12 years, and in those 12 years we've gone from having a budget surplus to a deficit so everything that's been added should be the first to be looked at and yes, social security and medicare will have to be tackled, and we've said we'll tackle it, really tough tackling, including reducing benefits for future generations, increasing revenues. all of that is on the table, but right now we have a cr in which people are still acting like it's business as usual, that these things need to simply be passed because we've been...