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Voices in his ear between those law schools like lindsey graham trying to push him to resolve the status of d.r.e.a.m.ers and people like steven mill here is saying, this would be cat strofg for your base. i think it was striking. i spoke with jeff flake. he said at this point swherks no longer rely on this president. we should move forward and send legislation to his desk and put pressure on him to sign it. >> it is a problem if these lawmakers, including supporters, republicans, they're trying to figure out what his position is. >> i suppose he. >> would you prefer the president spends satur...

Negotiation, a discussion is possible for the first time in years. he is the negotiator in chief in theory. shouldn't get personally involved. but, you know, most of our policy tools here are weak. and when we had success in restraining the program, it has been through diplomacy. so i hope he uses this opportunity to explore that as a possibility, a possibility we have not really used very often in recent years this is something he gets for free for being the new president. >> jim walsh, m.i.t. security studies, i like your style, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, ari. have a good night....

Words from steven mill or who claims it was these couple of agents, they thought it was a way to cull through these applications, elizabeth hoffacre is about to say something very different today, is she not? >> exactly. she's going to describe how she began the process, she was there early on, and it was quickly sent to washington where the orders continually seemed to come to do what the former acting commissioner called not distressing. you know, the truth is that decisions were made as far as we can tell properly in the beginning, and then this grouping was a way to stop literally hundreds...

There is a lot of information we don't know about what went on and why the irs went on this effort to target conservative groups, tea party groups groups that had patriot or constitution in their name. there is lot to be uncovered and that is why this investigation is going on for a while. >> jamie: it sounds like it is expanding a bit with religious organizations claiming they were targeted. you think we'll ever get the answers we need? is there anything paul ryan the president should do in just calling for those answers? >> i think at this point ryan wants the justice department to conduct i...