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>> shanahan last evening, and the president trying to show there is no daylight at all here. it's a little bit like, oh, there is gambling at the casino with the white house. when you step back, you see it is sort of extraordinary they're coordinating here so closely. but as we've been saying, the president is going to be thinking about this and stewing about this, and he may change what he wants. in january he may say, i want a long trial, i want these witnesses, i want hunter biden. >> i think what's always important to remember about this president is he's fighting. he has both supporters a...

As it should. >> yes. >> you know, being impeached is not a good thing. >> yeah. remember just a few months ago when we were hearing from the white house and top trump officials that they wanted the house to impeach the president? sort of bring it on. this will help his re-election campaign. i mean, look. clearly this is not something he's happy with. i mean, the reporting you guys have there is great. i mean, it shows that he's stewing. there's some behind the scenes details there about how he's been asking about, you know, polling. how is the polling doing on impeachment. which why are peopl...

Aid to ukraine, saying this is essentially a routine policiry view of this aid. can despite that we know there's no real policy review being conducted of this aid, at least in terms of questions about corruption. we know the department of defense-concluded in the spring that ukraine should indeed receive the security. what's sniff is we're seeing them insist the isis a routine matter. and tewing the president directly to this freeze of security aid. this top attorney for the office of management and budget, saying all of this was done at the direction of the president. >> back with me now, fra...

In the history of our country by far. it's not even like an impeachment. >> except for one thing. impeachment is impeachment. >> it is. and it is something that the president does not want. he's out there and downplaying it and saying it is no big deal but we're told privately he has been griping to aides and stewing about the process and concerned that this is what people will remember from his presidency. he believes that is the case with bill clinton and as you know bill clinton gave him the advice to just focus on the job, publicly, to focus on the job, let your aides deal with the impeach...

Of this on matt bevin? >> t minus 30 seconds, lawrence? how long do we have to go before "the 11th hour"? >> and that's another part of this. donald trump is now sitting in the white house tonight, watching this, stewing, thinking who does he blame, who was the nut in his operation to let him go to kentucky, all of that has to be dealt with in trump world tomorrow. >> i just glanced at twitter. i think there's already a stayed saying that donald trump almost successfully dragged matt bevin over the finish line. now every republican office holder whats to think, wait a moment, is that going to ...