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Anti-u.s. rally in pyongyang, the capital of north korea, that foreign minister made the assertion that north korea was only steps away from the completion of a nuclear force including h-bombs and icbms and they would not stop in the face of what he called illegal sanctions. all this comes with more sabre rattling by the united states, b 1 bombers u.s. jet fighters flew to the east of north korea, to the north of the dmz and the general area in the path of the north korean missile launch last week. the military spokesman says this shows the resolve of the united states and it shows that it has...

Into new icbm. which sounds very much like what you were just talking about. not only did they carry out this test, but they're claiming that one of these h-bombs is now sitting on top of an icbm somewhere in north korea. that is a very dangerous situation and we will see how the u.s. is go to go ing to rea this. i've been speaking with military officials over the last few minutes. they expect there will be some reaction. there are meetings to take place in d.c. today at very high levels trying to discuss what the u.s. will do. will there be another show of force? previous shows of force haven...

>> so we're waiting for this i think the isotopic signature to totally know what this was. bottom line, based upon what you know, do you think this is real or a hoax? >> we overall would tend to agree with the white house. for the moment, we don't believe that -- we believe north korea is actually possibly bluffing about having an h-bomb. and the reason for that is simple. when we're talking about h-bombs, we commonly refer to a very specific type of nuclear weapon. we're referring to a two-stage fission if fusion nuclear device, which is a device very complicated to build and at the same time...

Kim jong-un isn't listening. >> thank you. i want to bring in jim himes, democratic congressman of connecticut and a member of the permanent select committee on intelligence. congressman, let's get trigt this. the richter scale data we have demonstrates 5.1 in unison of the test of 2013. 5.1. so what information is your committee gathering to authenticate the claim? >> as a committee where are more or less where the white house was. there's a lot of questions, people who understand the technology of h-bombs have an awful lot of questions about the size of the explosion and therefore the size o...

Hear that there was an h-bomb actually tested, and maybe somewhat confused as to the s significance of the explosive qualities and the travel qualities or the significance generally speaking between a-bombs and h-bombs and any other kind of weaponry that north korea has been up to. >> it is the difference of the megabyte and the kilobyte and then to the terabyte. and this is where all of the nations have been between a 4.3 magnitu magnitude, and 5.11 that we are been seeing in the desolate h area of some mining which is indicating that probably this is an underground test, and that is what we ...