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For some reason unemployment insurance is where we won't cross that line. i'm hoping that common sense and reasonable people will come together, reasonable minds. we'll take a better look at this. this thing ought to be paid for. but i'm going to support this legislation anyway because truly i think it's the right thing to do. what i would encourage is for my colleagues to get out of the beltway, go home and talk to these people who need this unemployment insurance. these are people who are actively looking for a job, hard-working americans that are looking for a job. let's make sure they can ...

Is a stimulus effect. all these people having more money to spend it adds $22 billion more, translateing to 85,000 jobs nationally. what itself case against doing it? >> that's a lot of points. we can talk about this one after another. so i guess my basic point, though, i think we all of us at this table agree will is a cost to increasing the minimum wage. it doesn't happen, magically, there is a cost. from my perspective, that cost is three things. it hurts the workers, you are cherry picking which worker will get this wage while shaving off the access to the latter bottom rungs. it hurts the...

Work, in fact, work full-time and still can't afford enough within their budget to eat. this is part of why it's so important. not just to feed people but because an economic stimulus effect, right. >> when you get a snap benefit, you have to spend it on food. that has an economic impact on our economy. it also, food is produced by farmers. it helps our farmers. this -- the way people try to pit farmers versus snap, i think, it's a false choice. look, the bottom line is, we have 50 million people in america who are hungry. 17 million are children. the fact that congress would vote to cut $20.5...

Industry and what is the impact of that. >> it raises some questions. one day missing, two days missing, maybe not the end of the world. tomorrow by the way they have to open. there's a huge issue, the last day of the month and many portfolio managers and investors, that day, matters a lot. if they can't get the exchange open and it's possible that they'll only do it electronically and if there's a problem with that, that could be a real problem. but more broadly in terms of the economic impact, there is -- there's a perverse issue, some people might have argued that this will have a short-ter...

>> e with all have a certain gift in our life to help and given back to people. mine happens to be cooking and i do everything in my power to try to use that gift. >> also tie dyeing. >> it's almost a back-door stimulus effect. >> that's all stimulus of money. >> almost all government spending. >> particularly food stamps because food is still grown, processed, shipped, warehoused, manufactured in america creating american jobs. one other point. the same things we do to fight hunger are exactly what we do to beat obesity. they have a program where we bring fresh produce from regional farms int...