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Though one source told cnn sadler called mccain's daughter, meghan mccain, to apologize, and still, sanders defended the culture inside the west wing. >> is there a tone set from the top here where it is allowed for an aide to say he's dying anyway? >> certainly, there is not a tone set here. we have a respect for all americans. >> sanders later conceded, president trump does set the tone. >> does he bear responsibility for the tone set here at the white house? and all of the staffers who work here, frankly? >> so what is that tone? judge for yourself. >> we have incompetent politicians not on...

President is reportedly fuming about it. isn't rudy giuliani perhaps speaking of consciousness of the president? isn't that his role? how do you see this pattern playing out publicly and then suddenly there's a separation? >> i think that's the question. is he channeling the president, you know, more honest transparent way than some of his aides? all of this comes from the top. it's a tone set for the top. a tone of chaos and contradiction and confusion, where white house aides have to clean up various messes. ultimately, that's on the boss. >> all right, we'll leave it there for now. brian st...

Believe about senator mccain, and is there a tone set from the top here where it is allowed for an aide to say he's dying anyway? >> certainly there is not a tone set here. we have a respect for all americans. that wh-- that's what we try to put forward in word and in action, on doing things that help every american in this country every single day. i think if you look at the policies we've put forth, you'll see that reflected. >> reporter: why not apologize to -- >> again, i'm not going -- again, i'm not going to get into a back and forth because people want to create issues of leaked staff -...

>> certainly there's not a tone set here. we have a respect for all americans. >> does kelly sadler still work at this white house? >> yes, she does. >> does the president set the tone? does he bear responsibility for the tone within this white house? >> the president as i mentioned just a moment ago, supports all americans. >> joining me now, chris whipple author of "the gatekeepers" and eddie glaude princeton professor and msnbc contributor. eddie, does tone matter? and is it the president's job to set it? >> absolutely. you know there's a value for civility that allows for the free and i th...

Statement after the news first broke. it reads, we respect senator mccain's service to our nation, and he and his family are in our prayers during this difficult time. but at today's white house press briefing, sarah huckabee sanders dodged all manner of questions related to this matter. >> does she still have a job? >> i'm not going to comment on an internal staff meeting. >> does the white house not think that you need to condemn these remarks or -- >> again, i'm not going to validate a leak one way or the other out of an internal staff meeting. >> are you saying that she didn't say this? >>...