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Regardless of what happens with the criminal investigation no, one wants to find ourselves in a position where a foreign adversary worked the campaign. >> i think people like me want to see heads rolling. >> let's go with you. >> you were one of the guys asking the questions. we got nothing out of her. she is just stone walling. >> that speaks to a broader dynamic in the white house. all of these senior officials are unwilling to talk about the matter. there was not a robust defense of donald trump jr. no one wants to get too far out of this and create their own legal exposure and make themsel...

Then tell theectics office afterwards they wanted papers jammed through and rushed up to the senate. and that's just not the way it's done with several, quite a few people drop out because they identify conflicts of interest later in the game. and we would have caught those a lot earlier in the game in the bush administration because we work with the a office of ethics instead of trying to work around the ethics rules. >> so everyone understands what schaub is saying here. the flip side to this is does it reward the white house's approach to these issues when people respond to their approach s...

White house press secretary, as of 9:46 a.m. there's a new swirling round of rumors that sean is moving out or up, maybe promoted, maybe not doing the briefings much more if they exist after today. what do you make of it? >> no word on who will replace him. i think the easy part is moving spicer into a new job. the hard part is figuring out how will take over. there's not a long list of people qualified for the job who seem to want the job. maybe that's why it's taken a while to replace him. >> in part because we don't know what that job will be. we don't know if sean leaves what that person w...

>> unreality. the president doesn't accept there's a russian investigation. he puts out this guy over the weekend who said, there isn't any, he's not even being investigated. it is stone walling. all the evidence that we get. he just denied. what is the strategy? to held to 30%? >> at least to the point, is there a person who could even do that job correctly good the pleasant say things like, i have the biggest inauguration of all time. it is not a matter of spicer being up there. >> laura ingram has book coming out in the fall which will prevent her from taking the job. >> she has personality...

But if he gives cedence that russia was a let the, his firing of comey looks all the worse. >> let's talk about stone walling. you just deny everything all the time. so he just denied everything. he denied everything that there was an investigation of trump. he admitted twice there was one but main when i talking points. so trump denies, or sean spicer said he doesn't admit that there was an attempted influence in the campaign. and now we have the lawyer saying i don't believe trump is under investigation. somehow reality will conform. that 30% will guy nonsense. >> that's why it is so hard th...