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To be okay. look, we make mistakes. i certainly have made my share. journalism is not an exact science. it's a kind of crude art. nobody can do it perfectly. and the idea of a free press is not that the press has to be right all the time, but it has to be free. and, again, i come back to i think most americans understand that a free and independent, fiercely independent press, fiercely independent when necessary, is the red beating heart of freedom and democracy. now, at any given time, a certain number of americans may say, listen, i'm glad the president is giving it to the press. but if you ...

You're in a hole, stop digging. in terms of his press relations, he just keeps digging. it's not to say the press doesn't make mistakes. we do make mistakes. >> but on some hand, is it working for him? peggy noonan had a great piece out this weekend where she was saying this is a day of reckoning in terms of sexual misconduct. she applauded all of those journalists out there who are lifting this veil and ending this time and revealing so many awful realities. well, at the same time, politico has a piece out, saying roy moore gets elected. you know who's to blame? the media. if you look at the ...

Nominee of the party he shares? >> well, certainly in any normal time, anyplace previous to this in history, i think a president would have said something one way or the other. but as several who appear on this program already pointed out that president trump is taking the view that he better not say anything for several reasons, not the least of which is if he says something, it could raise new questions about his own reputation in this general area but what's happened here is this previously has happened in a number of times when you have a situation in which the party has somebody they don'...

Way or the other. but as several who appear on this program already pointed out that president trump is taking the view that he better not say anything for several reasons, not the least of which is if he says something, it could raise new questions about his own reputation in this general area but what's happened here is this previously has happened in a number of times when you have a situation in which the party has somebody they don't want to get elected. the old saying goes, when you're in a hole, stop digging. that's pretty much what president trump is attempting to do by not saying anyt...

Would be -- that somebody would be listening to that call. he was -- he actually couldn't believe it. actually, he said to me, sir, this is not acceptable. this is really not -- he knew it. i was so nice. look. i have called many people. and i would think that every one of them appreciated it. >> tim, as you know, in these settings, you have government phone calls. there are often parties in the room. mosha gesson, a journalist that fled vladimir putin's administration. they're private and the statement she writes contains a classic trumpian reversal and claiming for himself the right of priva...