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Aware of irony and not unsophisticated. how can people like that say that it's totalitarian for the public to know more without tripping some kind of internal sensor that says whoa, whoa, stop lying that much? >> i can't get inside a television anchor's head. i wouldn't presume to get inside your head either, tucker. frankly although that might be an enjoyable venture. [laughter] you know, all the incentives on somebody in the position of an msnbc anchor is to elevate the most fanatical and alarmist interpretations of anything trump does on a given day. so, if there is an alternate explanation...

>> well, his cover-up one of the big things he is pushing we have to protect our sources and methods. >> i was a source for the cia and fbi for many years. literally based on this dossier you talk about protecting sources i personally was getting frequent death threats from oklahoma and elsewhere related to this, you know, these threats or these, you know, false stories that they were pushing and kind of pushing through the system was john brennan concerned about your well-being as a source. >> no. and not only that in my meetings with the cia in march of 2017 i told them about the death threa...

Actually truth as you know. michael, great to see you tonight. thank you for come on. >> thanks. >> tucker: back in may ofno 2017, john brennan insisted that the steele dossier had no bearing on the behavior during the 2016 election. >> do you know who commissioned this steeles dossier? >> i don't. >> did the cia rely on it? >> no. >> why not? >> because we didn't. it wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. it was not in any way used as a basis for the intelligence community assessment that was done. >> tucker: that's such a lie and we know it's a lie. just as when b...

Aware of irony and not unsophisticated. how can people like that say that it's totalitarian for the public to know more, without tripping some kind of internal sensor that says whoa, whoa, stop lying that much? >> i can't get inside a television anchor's head. i wouldn't presume to get inside your head either, tucker. frankly, although, that might be an enjoyable venture. you know, all the incentives on somebody in the position of an msnbc anchor is to elevate the most fanatical and alarmist interpretations of anything trump does on a given day. so if there is an alternate t explanation for wh...

>> they're lying about his health. he can't stop lying. >> i know a guy who's 6'4" and weighs close to 240 pounds, he does not look look that. >> no. no. >> if he's fighting an obesity crisis, there's no doubt he is obese -- >> guys, it's not funny. he's dead serious. look up the stats. this guy is either obese or medically, morbidly obese. it's something he's obviously battling. i think he should talk about it with the american people. listen, i don't care if he weighs close to 300 pounds. i mean, that's something that he should talk about. mika, you wrote a book about this. >> i did. and we ...