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Are better off talking about or having republicans rebut charges of racism than talk about joblessness is good. she made the comment, joe. >> you know something else, back in the 80s, when i first started studying political science, there was a study by the congress the political harrassment of black elected officials. and the congress -- this was the congressional black caucus argued that black elected officials were harrassed and scrutinized more closely than other elected officials. if they believe that, it seem if you believe -- >> that is not true. >> then you would be more careful. it is...

This [ talking over each other ] >> what happened with hastert with the -- >> sean: stop one second. nancy pelosi said she would have the most ethical congress, drain the swamp, cold cash jefferson, charlie rangel, tax cheats, then the cornhusker kickback, louisiana purchase. look at the poll numbers, 11% for congress. they don't like what is going on. >> they don't like anything going on in washington. >> sean: the democrats are in charge. they celebrated a couple years ago. [ talking over each other ] >> "the new york times" did an article on the congressional black caucus foundation and how...

>> four rent stabilized apartments. neither party when it gets caught up in this stuff handles it well. i don't think there's any some kind of strategy to playing this out >> sean: why didn't pelosi say resign? [ talking over each other ] >> whoever is in charge for whatever reasons, doesn't deal with this stuff fast enough. >> sean: hang on a second -- carol's point -- >> why hasn't the congress dealt with the fact that the congressional black caucus has the kong cal black caucus foundation shakes down corporations and gets money many to me that's an ethics violation. >> political fact that e...