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Joining me now is terrorism specialist evan coleman. >> thank you very much. >> why release the tapes? >> i think the purpose of releasing this is to knock bin laden down a notch. to show him as a bumbling idiot as opposed to a sophisticated terrorist leader with his loyal followers. the idea is this a a human being. the problem is to really get that point across you need the audio. if you want to show him bumbling through a speech and messing it up, you have to hear that. right now all we have have a few images of bin laden staring to the left to the side. it doesn't have the full impact. it ...

Islamabad station chief. how does that sort of thing materially affect our work in some cases with pakistan? >> it's not going to help things. that's for sure. that's the question here. is that the pack stop signees are accusing the united states of waging a war without their consent. the real question are why are the pack stop signees so hesitant, fighting so hard against trying to crack down on the pack stop signee taliban. we have mainstream pakistani politicians talking about trying to make a peace treaty with the pack stop signee taliban at the same time when they're murdering hundreds of...

Materially affect our work in some cases with pakistan? >> it's not going to help things. that's for sure. that's the question here. is that the pack stop signees are accusing the united states of waging a war without their consent. the real question are why are the pack stop signees so hesitant, fighting so hard against trying to crack down on the pack stop signee taliban. we have mainstream pakistani politicians talking about trying to make a peace treaty with the pack stop signee taliban at the same time when they're murdering hundreds of innocent muslims in pakistan. the math is not there ...

Releasing this is to knock bin laden down a notch. to show him as a bumbling idiot as opposed to a sophisticated terrorist leader with his loyal followers. the idea is this a a human being. the problem is to really get that point across you need the audio. if you want to show him bumbling through a speech and messing it up, you have to hear that. right now all we have have a few images of bin laden staring to the left to the side. it doesn't have the full impact. it may have a more impact in the mind of u.s. officials than in the target audience. >> terms of the pakistani response for the seco...

Bin laden, but not having facilitated this action in a way that they have other arrests? >> there's no doubt that pakistan finds itself in an almost lose-lose situation. if on one hand we're going to take pakistani officials words for value that they knew about the pop ration or that they had the intelligence or cooperated with the united states, then there's no doubt that that has put them in the same boat with the united states in becoming a target for perhaps future al qaeda attacks. so that is one problem from the pakistani perspective. the other problem is if they did not know about this ...