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It's a diminishing return here. the difference is getting smaller and smaller. the growing segment is the libertarian network that's what we concentrate on my network and show. >> bill: let's take the debt ceiling which we just talked about. we owe $16.5 trillion. all right? obviously any intelligent person knows if we keep going this way the u.s. dollar is going to collapse which is why you demand to be paid in gold. >> i don't but that's not a bad idea. >> bill: libertarian say we don't want any paper money anymore? what do you want? >> i can't speak for the libertarian. >> bill: you said yo...

Security and tax cuts, unemployment, insurance extension would take some of that away. and the fact of the matter is that the debt limit from a market perspective is a much bigger deal. if we get, you know, six weeks from now to a point where it looks like we might go over again, we don't have a deal, the markets are going to react more than they are now. on the fiscal cliff they think this is going to find someone out. it gets done. the debt limit, if we go over it, we get downgraded again. it's unthinkable. it's not completely unthinkable that we could. markets tanks. interest race go way up...

Let's continue the bush tax cuts, let's make this fair for everyone but let's stop spending. we are spending more than we have. democrats are saying now they are saying it doesn't matter, we are not focused on the deficit anymore. we want to keep spending so we're going to raise taxes. >> don't touch spending. if you touch spending do it five or 10 years down the road. let another congress do it. in the meantime raise revenues through tax increases. >> i hear my father's voice. we all grew up with our dads that they saved every penny they had. they came from that generation. my dad would never...

Pretended the enemies are rich americans. >> bob: you don't think there is waste in defense? >> greg: absolutely. i do think there is a waste of defense. >> dana: the waste in defense, climate change programs that they have to do. >> eric: greg pointed out things that are important. listen to the genius, howard dean. >> the only problem, truth is everybody needs to pay more taxes, not just the rich. >> that is not harasssy, that is honesty. honest moment for the first time. >> bob: can you tell us 30 seconds to tell us how to get the deficit down? >> greg: stop spending. >> bob: i get that. >>...

you might think that hispanics are the fastest growing immigrant group in the country but you'd be wrong. a new pew studies shows that asians have surpassed them. 31% for hispanics. 10 years ago asians made up 19% of new immigrants. the number has almost doubled in just a decade. let me bring in deborah faye err rick. a lot of people are talking in our morning meeting about what this means politically, what it means economically. asian immigration way up. it still only makes up 5% of the u.s. population. explain this to us. >> reporter: it's not 5 or 6%. what we're talking about is a...