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Its its ridiculous. >> that's the most important word, growth. when the economy opportunity grow you have no way of digging yourself out of the ditch. the 16-1/2 trillion ditch. here's my point. if the government stops pending, if the economy is so weak that when the government does stop spending, it goes into a neglect testify growth or recessioner in period, that's not the sign of a healthy economy? >> if agree with you. but keep in mine what i'm homing now, eric, we city a little stability, at least until 2014 elections. we know that people over 200,000 a year are going to pay 4-1/2% more i...

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Debating whether to go $15 or $16 trillion in debt, i grow, the time to debate this was back when we were expanding the size of government, and saw the scope of government but i wasn't here there i was a prosecutor. which is a job i enjoyed and i am here with my colleagues now who despite what the national narrative is about us, we are every day folk whose just want to see washington stop spending that much more money than they bring in. >>neil: thank you, congressman. as i have indicated if you blame the tea party for holding this process hostage because they don't want to spend as much and y...

Adam woshinski. charles payne what do you think? >> absolutely it's a problem. the problem is really greater than this. paul ryan is in my mind the litanous test. where is the next greatest generation? who is going to step up and answer the call? we hear the alarm are we going to roll over or take the arms. it means some sacrifice. ultimately it means the average citizen has the guts not washington because we keep bringing them in washington. does the average person have the guts to keep it going? >> i don't know any one for lack of not doing things. the problem is they seem to be doing all of...

We're on the exact same track. our public debt will be 60% this year, a percentage of gdp. greece was at 100% when it had its problems. there's no way off this track unless we start to make some tough decisions. the programs exist, the spending comes at us. the government is growing. it's gone from 20% to gbt to 24% of gdp in the last 20 years. it's headed toward 28% of gdp. what does that mean? the government has gotten much too large for the children to be able to afford it and the world being willing to lend us many to sustain it. >> of the proposals you've heard floated so far and the seco...