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About that trip and who he encountered. >> matthew, he talked so much to the media, he spent hours in that hearing without a lawyer. the strange thing about him, he talk as lot and his story changes. you saw what he said to chris haze. he said he didn't meet russian officials intelligence officers and it turns out he apparently did meet some russian officials. what do you make of what this is and where it's going? and i point out like papadopoulos and manafort, they all talk about how carter page who was a volunteer who was peripheral to the captain. but all of these peripherals have some cont...

Russians about anything? no, never. phil mudd, what are your questions, if you sit down with your fbi hat on in light of the no, i never did it, okay, i did it but it was about adoptions, nothing to do with the campaign to, yeah, i sat down because she supposedly had dirt on hillary clinton? >> first of all, i have to stop laughing when i go into the conversation. here is my question, this is why the investigation is so complicated. i'm sure people will ask why is this going to take months or even years. if you multiply these statements changing over time by dozens of 'em pooh, that's one aspe...

By the trump administration. they go on to write any assertion of privilege by the president would be seen as an effort to obstruct the truth from both congress and the american people. your response to that, and should the president exert executive privilege? >> i hope he doesn't. i hope this president will get past this quickly because things like jobs numbers this week are so much more important to the average american worker, so much like reagan did during the iran contra, i think the best thing to do, get it all out there, who, what, when, why, let the people know. one other point. comey ...

Well. how is this going to be different or overall the same umbrella looking into what went wrong here and what needs to be done when it comes to policing practices? >> well, ferguson got a great deal of attention, but that was a very small municipality baltimore is a big city these are big city problems. there are a range of these type of investigations as you've mentioned, but it's very significant. one of the things you see particularly when the media were guilty of sometimes coming into a big problem, covering it then leaving. people on the ground are saying our lives continue. this today ...

Attorney. if you were george zimmerman's attorney, would you at some point contact this alleged friend and say you're not helping the situation here, what is your motive here? >> i would have called him a few days ago. enough already. understand part of defense strategy sometimes, remember, you can't put george zimmerman on the camera, is to use surrogates. this is becoming an unhelpful, distraction and just keeps feeding emotion and public discussion and controversy and so if i were the kwens lawyer i would say sit down, go quiet, you have had your 15 minutes of fame. move on. >> is it likely...