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Urban environment on the northeast regional trains by that time when they're that far out of the station in either boston or providence or philadelphia, they're heading up towards their maximum speed at that point. it sounds like this train was getting close to its maximum speed. >> exactly, yeah. they were making up time. we were a little bit late getting out of the washington station, about ten minutes or so. but this wasn't a bend or anything. that's why it was surprising. i don't expect how that got around. but it got real wobbly and then it happened so fast. so there was a lot of people t...

Over? are these huge electrical poles going to collapse in? so everybody was moving as far away from that t more and more people were filing out. >> and as you're on the train, pretty much all the luggage on an amtrak train is carry-on luggage. were people taking time to grab their stuff or were people rushing off and leaving their stuff on the train? >> i would say it was a mixture of both. my purse was right in between my feet. so i was able to pick up my bag and walk off and i saw another guy with a huge duffel bag that he must have had very closely to him and he put it diagonally across hi...

In the street there watching ambulances pull away and they have absolutely no information about what happens to them next. if you were sitting there as a member of congress watching this, what else would you be doing? >> you know listen i would absolutely be frustrated lawrence. but not to play devil's advocate, but i will tell you that the conductor and the william one woman who works for amtrak, they got pretty banged up. both were definitely wobbly. but their first and immediate course of action was to make sure that those passengers were okay and directing on the -- you know, to stay calm....

Their plans are for the passengers left standing there. what the control room is telling me is a train is bend in half. i can't see it from the monitor i'm using here. but if you have a giant screen at home and you can illuminate it you might be able to see it. patrick, have you heard anything from anyone there about what's going to happen to the passengers who are now stranded in the middle of their trips waiting for transportation toward new york and north of new york? >> no. i'm still here on-site, just right off the track with some police and fire personnel, still watching people come out,...

And i was in complete shock. i think most people were. once i realized what had happened, smoke started to fill the train car. my first thought and everybody's first thought, i think, was how do we get off this car.. that was the first thing i heard people asking out loud how do we get off of this car. the people that were able to get up stood up and walked to try to find an exit. >> janelle you say the car you were on the last car on the train, was that half full? was that mostly full? i would say that it was mostly full from what i can remember. you know on these trains people are constantly...