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Will, cutting that awful hard germans and european consumers, but, take your time. use the genocide label later as a tool to rally the europeans. and the european public to make that sacrifice. putin is losing, is in a very weak position this is last chance to somehow claim victory in eastern ukraine. but he's hanging on, economically. and that's why, rather than labels on return, cut off the sales -- sorry, the purchase of russian natural gas. strangle putin's economy, and his war machine. >> holden, let me ask you, finally, if i can, about the optics of boris johnson's visit to ukraine and k...

A tool to rally the europeans. and the european public to make that sacrifice. putin is losing, is in a very weak position this is last chance to somehow claim victory in eastern ukraine. but he's hanging on, economically. and that's why, rather than labels on return, cut off the sales -- sorry, the purchase of russian natural gas. strangle putin's economy, and his war machine. >> holden, let me ask you, finally, if i can, about the optics of boris johnson's visit to ukraine and kyiv, and walking around through downtown kyiv with the president zelenskyy. this, week present biden said that he w...