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Saturday to work toward a deal. but prospects for breakthrough remained them as the new democratic authority seems determined to stand up to president trump. in a moment, we will speak with white house press secretary, sarah sanders. but first, let's bring in kevin quirk, live at the white house with the latest on the talks between the two sides. >>reporter: with no end to the shutdown, top white house officials meeting with the president at camp david for a 2019 strategy session. youcan imagine at the top of the list, ending the shutdown . from the situation room, rose garden, refitting and c...

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Strategy session to talk about how to approach this infamous trump tower meeting with the russians. and as we parsed rudy guiliani's words there, what he seems to be saying or could be saying is that michael cohen is now saying that such a meeting took place with these other people. and that these other people deny that. so there seems to be a dispute about whether there was such a meeting. but even that is huge news. never before discussed or revealed to the public. if that's cohen's story now. because what it would suggest is that this meeting, far from the nothing burger that some of the pa...

Strategy session before the trump tower meeting to discuss russian -- to discuss russian dirt on hillary clinton? kristen welker is at the white house where that joint press conference is about to take place. ken dilanian is an intelligence and national security reporter. jonathan verneer a white house reporter for "the associated press" and danny cevallos is an nbc legal analyst. kristen, what is rudy giuliani talking about? >> before i get to that, a little bit of a scene setter here, which is that the u.s. delegation is entering. secretary of state mike pompeo, national security advisor joh...

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