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You don't need to count delegates to see the general election taking shape, with president obama and mitt romney exchanging the first shots in their likely showdown for the white house. just a day after the president tore into romney's support for the republican budget, the former massachusetts governor hit the very same stage in washington and fired back. >> the president came here yesterday and railed against arguments no one is making. and criticized policies that no one is proposing. it's one of his favorite strategies. setting up straw men to distract us from his record. and while i under...

Specific doctors and care that you need, that's too bad. it's a bad idea, and it will ultimately end medicare as we know it. >> all right. hold it. let's give mitt romney a chance to respond. 24 hours later, he steps up to the microphone, and this is mitt romney's reaction. >> the president came here yesterday and railed against arguments no one is making. and criticized policies no one is proposing. it's one of his favorite strategies. setting up straw men to distract us from his record. >> chris hayes, you couldn't even contain yourself. you couldn't even let mitt romney finish, you were sta...

Setting up straw men and scapegoats but the president speaking to a crowd in denver about his new plan to bring relief to college graduates saddled with debt made it clear who he blames for the struggles. >> for decades too many of our institutions from washington to wall street failed to adapt. or they adapted in ways that didn't work for ordinary folk. for middle class families, for those aspiring to get into the middle class. >> the president went on to say the country needs to focus on making things and creating value and not on racking up debt. on to 2012 politic, herman cain is centralin...

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