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U.s. is losing so much influence. >> you're the best. >> -- in the middle east, the opportunity is that they have seen that the middle east is in a period of transition. it's not too late for the u.s. government to actually get on the right side of these movements happening right across the middle east. that will in the long term, in my view, restore credibility to the united states. >> i thought al jazeera had a beat on this guy. were you fantastic. thank you, sir. you are a great colleague to have on. much more on the crackdown in the streets of egypt coming up. do we have any leverage ove...

Jailed by hosni mubarak. it also depends on what other presidential candidates emerge. remember, any call for new presidential elections here is also fraught with all sorts of danger, because the instability of the streets is being fuelled by money, chris. not only from iran, but also from islamic extremists who view this as a momentous status quo in egypt. >> how did you get that report? how do you know about the role of money and what we're watching in iran? >> because information that the israelis had taken over in 2008 when they invaded gaza, hamas had been able to in effect obtain a great...

Across a lot of bank accounts in order to keep this going. >> are you surprised that our president, barack obama became so interventionist as to tell his partner, as he calls him, president mubarak that they should open up the tefls ovtele over there, open up the internet. are you surprised he got that particular on the phone? sounds like he did with the president. >> well, i frankly find that surprising and disconcerting. i think the president has to be kargful. we're not going to earn kudos in the streets by most of these demonstrators. if we think on the backses of these demonstrators that ...

Give me your interpretation of who those people are in the streets and what do they want. >> this is a body of people who are nonideological. they're not reflecting necessarily the muslim brotherhood. they come from the streets genuinely. they cross all society. they don't have a leader. this is what's so striking about they want. they have emerged in partly -- in part because of what's happened in tunisia. it's been shown now that people power can make a difference. i think we crossed a threshold today, not only in terms of seeing the opposition inside egypt, but also the turning point for th...

Themselves in the middle east, they all want their oldest son to be their successor. whether they call themselves baathist or islamists. the military sees that, they don't like it. he really doesn't have support across the board like he did. is the military lie yal to him n -- loyal to him now in terms of the succession, do you believe? >> that's the question. and the army is not just one body. the leaders may be loyal to mubarak but what about the rank and file who see their cousins and brothers and sisters and ants and mothers even outen the stre streets protesting against mubarak. we saw th...