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Fedderman and dr. mehmet oz about the debate. and it is getting increasingly personal. fedderman is declining to debate because of the way mehmet oz's campaign is treating him post-stroke. listen to what he said. >> decesperation is the worst cologne. and they understand that dr. oz's campaign is in shambles. you look at the polls and the fund-raising and they say, let's appeal to folks who get their jollies, you know, making fun of the stroke dude. >> i guess two-part question to you on this. and that is, do you believe that fetterman can pull this off without debating at all? right? and cros...

Stroke dude. >> he says that's why he's not debating dr. oz. the voters obviously deserve a debate. is this decision hurting fetterman at all? any indication of that? >> you know, i think it's too early to tell. i think the campaign is strategically going to wait this out as long as they can, and potentially if they do debate, it might be a debate later in the campaign. and they've clearly taken a tactic to try and shame oz's campaign for some of the more personal attacks on his health and to try to garner some empathy with voters. polling does show that when voters in pennsylvania are asked i...