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The crime. >> her husband, six foot, 200-pound, very athletic guy. mr. holthouse, big, strong guy. his wife was actually a very physically fit woman. >> so, she would be out gunned by one of them? >> i believe so. yes, sir. >> they took ron in for questioning several times. again and again, he insisted it wasn't him. >> i screwed up my marriage. i made a mess of my life. >> he admitted that in the last hours of stephanie's life, he met her here in this clothing store parking lot, around dinner time, and it wasn't a happy meeting. >> i was actually trying to tell her that it was over. >> he ear...

And any one of them, thought the detective, was certainly physically capable of committing the crime. >> her husband, six foot, 200-pound, very athletic guy. mr. holthouse, big, strong guy. his wife was actually a very physically fit woman. >> so, she would be outgunned by one of them? >> i believe so. yes, sir. >> they took ron in for questioning several times. again and again, he insisted it wasn't him. >> i screwed up my marriage. i made a mess of my life. >> he admitted that in the last hours of stephanie's life, he met her here in this clothing store parking lot, around dinner time, and i...

Why would they let him say this? why would they let him recently with the putin stuff? >> right. >> who lets him take the interpreter's notes? who lets him go with this guy alone alone? who lets him say that in helsinki? what's the answer? >> i -- look, divide it into two ways, chris. two different approaches. i've known donald trump for 17 years. the idea of letting him do something is something that maybe works with other politicians, even worked with someone with a strong personality like me. it doesn't work with him. in fact, when you try to force him to do something, or not do something, ...

He's simply not changing who he is. >> but everybody, even you, you know, strong guy, my brother, strong guy, you have people around you who when they say, gov, not only are you wrong, but this is going to be a step in a hole that you're not going to climb out. >> that's right. >> you stop. >> we do. >> you think. you get angry. you walk away. you come back. you're like, what do we do? that never seems to happen. >> sometimes it does. for instance, you see what he said on syria then obviously john bolton and mike pompeo and others got to him and now he's walked that back a bit. same thing on a...

Bruner, the husband. and any one of them, thought the detective, was certainly physically capable of committing the crime. >> her husband, six foot, 200-pound, very athletic guy. mr. holthouse, big, strong guy. his wife was actually a very physically fit woman. >> so, she would be out gunned by one of them? >> i believe so. yes, sir. >> they took ron in for questioning several times. again and again, he insisted it wasn't him. >> i screwed up my marriage. i made a mess of my life. >> he admitted that in the last hours of stephanie's life, he met her here in this clothing store parking lot, aro...