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Round. >> okay. [laughter] greg: imam ali, he's going to saudi arabia. i imagine he's going to talk about radical islam, moderation, need for temperance and allç that kind of stuff.e and allç what do you expect? what do you hope to see? >> truly, i look for many things. number one, i'm so happy but i'm sad at the same time. because i'm a muslim -- greg: right. >> that saudi arabia has been the user of many radicalism around the world. greg: true. >> donald trump going to talk about tolerance in saudi arabia. identify read donald trump going to talk about islam this front of 50 muslim lea...

Round. >> okay. [laughter] greg: imam ali, he's going to saudi arabia. i imagine he's going to talk about radical islam, moderation, need for temperance and allç that kind of stuff.e and allç what do you expect? what do you hope to see? >> truly, i look for many things. number one, i'm so happy but i'm sad at the same time. because i'm a muslim -- greg: right. >> that saudi arabia has been the user of many radicalism around the world. greg: true. >> donald trump going to talk about tolerance in saudi arabia. identify read donald trump going to talk about islam this front of 50 muslim lea...

A year from now could look very different if we're in a place that you suggest we might be. >> right. you have this democratic pelt with a republican congress that hates him, seems like you're not going to get anything done. the last few years looked like that. the people remember that as a period thaft was actually prett productive on e on foreign policy. the economy was so strong, there's so much must be to money to throw around, it was easy to find stuff e stuff to do together. >> that's interesting. one last note, and i don't even have to have a discussion about this. but just an acountabi...

Would have known none of it and claimed to the press that he had no idea that the ukrainian foreign minister was there. secretary kerry sounded optimistic after his discussions today. >> i don't think any of us had the anticipation coming here at this moment of heightened confrontation that we were suddenly going to resolve that here this afternoon, i think today was very constructive. without promising something that is not defined yet, without raising hopes that are inappropriate to raise. i want to be realistic. this is hard, tough stuff e and a very serious moment. but i would rather be wh...

Inappropriate to raise. i want to be realistic. this is hard, tough stuff e and a very serious moment. but i would rather be where we are today than where we were yesterday. >> joining me now, the former ambassador to kbru crane under both george w. bush and president obama. and steven cohn, professor of slavic studies. the fact that russia is denying these are his troops there and that their uniforms are unmarked, is there possibly something hopeful in that, in that since there is no formal russian acknowledgment that they've done this, that they may be able to slip out of there? >> i think s...