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Military intelligence persona. so most likely this relates to information that she may have about who stone was in communication with. >> right. >> and how he was communicating during that crucial time in september and october. >> yeah. i mean that part of it to me -- the only way to make sense of her talking to mueller is if she's talking about stone. maybe there's something that we don't know, right -- >> and stone having something to do with stone's communications in 2016 in the closing months of the campaign. >> which again is part of andrew miller, who is an associating of stone who just ...

>> which is part of andrew miller, constitutionality of the entire mueller operation. it seems to me that you know, we don't know what is going to happen, but to your point about he farmed other stuff out, stone seems like he is sitting right there in the tractor beam of the mueller investigation. >> all of the signs are that mueller is closing in on stone and if we are going to see a case, it is extremely likely we will see it in a few weeks. he doesn't want to be accused of bringing cases in the course of the election. so you know, this may drag out until post election, but i would think giv...

That the trump team and the russians decided to get this stuff out, knew they couldn't put their own fingerprints on it and released it through ric wikileaks. these are connecting the dots which aren't too tough to connect especially for someone like bob mueller. >> we have to leave it there. and now take you to california where thousands of firefighters at this moment are working around the clock to contain a massive wildfire. the carr fire which covered an area the side of the city of philadelphia has already killed six people and destroyed hundreds of homes in its path. nbc's steve patterso...

Ami and he was interested in bringing them in. he says on the tape, what happens if david pecker gets hit by a truck. >> i've heard plausible arguments about -- the cohen side put the stuff out and the trump side put the stuff out. there are good arguments on both sides about the game theories of what you're trying to do. in the end i don't think it has anything to do with the evidence. the evidence is the evidence. it will end up in front of a court or not. the evidence will speak to something provably true or not. i think you're right in terms of the narrative, like who cares about michael c...

Campaign, and talking about building in effect the shell company -- >> you think the tape is the most devastating thing -- >> i think the tape establishes him as somebody close to the president who would be a problem for someone hear him say things and say he doesn't know what he's talking about. you don't get on the phone and talk to anybody about your divorce papers and which black preacher you're going to use in a campaign. they're building up credibility for him as being close to trump. >> i agree with you. i'm with the rev on this. i think the analysis that cohen sort of blew it by puttin...