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That point if you are not at all suspicious or bothered by russia attacking our election. at that point there's a lot of wow factor in terms of what we know. >> that's true. >> they got into the democratic national committee's materials and released them in such a way, that during the democratic convention the chair had to resign. the way they've rolled stuff out, the stuff they have access to, by that point, the washington post is reporting that u.s. intelligence and law enforcement is on to a massive russian attack on our election. there's a lot to be impressed by if you're not patriotic on ...

When will this become an obsession for our leaders and for our white house? not the collusion. let's see what the investigation brings on that, if anything. they really did this, they did it more than they ever have before, scared the bejesus out of our intelligence community and they don't know how to stop it. >> i think everyone is aware of what a massive problem that is. i think everybody does not know what to do about it, and sometimes too daunting to make that the primary focus because it's a question that requires all kinds of collaboration, planning, figuring things out, more public dis...

By that do that to mean a diversity of truth? >> there's no such thing as a diversity of truth. >> i was wondering why they kept doing the stupid story. cnn, the russia strike, it's like a kid staring at a pot of water on the stove having no idea that the burner is off. it's not getting any hotter. but now i know t why. they had to keep matching the narrative. they created a story to match the narrative for the purposes of ratings. they were treating the story like professional wrestling. they had villains and heroes and they were following a pathng towards a climax, except that the climax nev...

That it values a diversity of opinion among its staff. by that do that to mean a diversity of truth? >> there's no such thing as a diversity of truth. >> is wondering why they kept doing the stupid story. cnn, the russia strike, it's like a kid staring at a pot of water on the stove having no idea that the burner is off. it's not getting any hotter. but now i know why. they had to keep matching the narrative. they created a story to match the narrative for the purposes of ratings. they were treating the story like professional wrestling. they had villains and heroes and they were following a p...

That it values a diversity of opinion among its staff. by that do that to mean a diversity of truth? >> there's no such thing as a diversity of truth. >> is wondering why they kept doing the stupid story. cnn, the russia strike, it's like a kid staring at a pot of water on the stove having no idea that the burner is off. it's not getting any hotter. but now i know why. they had to keep matching the narrative. they created a story to match the narrative for the purposes of ratings. they were treating the story like professional wrestling. they had villains and heroes and they were following a p...