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Techniques in between rocks to gets this stuff out, whatever is involved, that it's just -- they say, formalizing the standards that the industry should be using. you say what? >> neil, i don't disagree with that. every state has their own rules. they control the drilling of oil wells to keep surface come tan nantzs -- >> all of this is so big i can see that -- all of this is justified, all these new rules. >> i think they're probably overbearing but we have gone past the antifracking position now. we're into -- >> when you get a -- >> shell, for instance the oil company shell, has just come o...

Institutionalist and the operator. you know, i think he was candid about one thing in that interview, which is what he's hoping to do is load these appropriations bills with lots of new policy, basically rolling back obama policy. and he wants to make the president pick and choose. i think the theory is going to be, the president can't fight us on every single thing. if we load these things up, he's going to insist we take some of the stuff out, which means some of the other policies might survive. so i think it's going to be a, you know, a flood the zone approach to to rolling back obama's ag...

We know relies on hiring contractors. should the screening process change? >> those are really good questions. i think let's take the second one first. contractors. we have in the war on terror, whether it's in afghanistan or iraq or with the intelligence community, the military and the intelligence community have contracted stuff out. now, it has been essential to fight this war, to deal with terrorists, but on the other hand, it doesn't have the kind of oversight and protection that somebody who is in the military or who is a c.i.a. official might have. a have a little bit of an issue with t...

Sometimes convoys are attacked. otherwise, you have to fly material out. right now, about 32,000 troops. he is talking about getting them down to 10,000 by end of the year. that's not that many, not much time to get 20,000 troops out of a landlocked central asian country. certainly a lot of effort between now and then is going to be involved in just ex-filling, never figured out why they use that term, ex-fill. getting stuff out, what they will be focused on, then trying to maintain this training mission. right now, u.s. troops mostly are on a training mission. about 90% of their time, they're...

It needs to stay there. we cannot take it out. it is the red line. in this case, the reason the pipeline is so important is that without that investment, without that capital expenditure to build that pipeline, it doesn't make much sense to take all the stuff out. that's the weakness. that's the weakness being attacked and that needs to be replicated times a thousand. so happy earth day. joining me now congressman hakim jeffreys, democrat from new york. congressman, one of the reasons i love talking to you is you're relatively new to capitol hill. you retain a bit of an outsider's view on it. ...