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Going to say, look, we want to do it differently. we want to say it differently. you have this generational friction. that's okay. we'll get through it. but it's not like it's only on one side, if you don't agree with us on this term, that we just came up with six months ago, you're a bigot. that implication, i think, is dangerous and unfair. >> who is doing that, scott? >> oh yes. >> alaska on this point, especially the idea, again, taking a step back, we're talking about very broad terms here, all of the terms, so to speak, which i would note that the associated press had a style guide about...

To speak. i would note that the associate press having a style guide against the word the. using the terms out there, scott. is this in and of itself a talk point where it seems as though everyone is being attacked and tarred and feathered because they use a wrong term or one that is not the international zeitgeist? or is that a talking point that suggests that you would be targeted. the fear tactic, of what might happen as opposed to reality? >> i think van is exactly right. van and i don't agree on everything. but we had a lot of conversations where we do agree. he's sometimes where i am. an...

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Use wording such as people with mental illness. i think, joe, on this show, we joked the word police would eventually come for the word "the" but i thought they were joking, they are coming for "the." >> joe: depending what your definition of the word "is" is. this is not a spoof, everyone watching at home, associated press, as a writer, i use their style guide and now their style guide is supposed to be nonpartisan wire service, now the wokest of the woke. i guess we can't say the free pres anymore, it is just free press. this is one of the many reasons why the media, sorry, media, has a trus...

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