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Not substance. there are some that have taken issue with that, among those "the washington post." style points? seriously. style points. that's what president obama thinks the criticism of his zigzag syria policy amounts to? if this is what he really believes, it's scary. not mincing words, ruth marcus. >> he's ended up in a good position with russia given what he set his goals to be. it was not a small achievement to get russia to sign up to this agreement, and it's meaningful. it's meaningful in terms of the inspection rating. it's meaningful in the case of noncompliance where russia says th...

That same moral standing in the world. we don't want to act on it. we don't want to move into war wherever there is pain and suffering and war. >> we want to think of ourselves -- >> we still want to feel like we're a leader in the world. this is the question of these next couple of decades, to figure out whether we have this obama doctrine of pulling back, which i think if you look at the blood and the purse american people are with him. we haven't reckoned with the fact that we're not america of world war ii anymore. >> lets talk about that the president talked about american exceptionalism ...

Hill. >> assad has to go. no, it's okay if assad stays. >> yeah, really erodes his ability, his capacity to lead, his capacity to bring others along with foreign countries and on the hill. what really worries me is that it will erode his ability to deal with the craziness on the other side, sorry, sara, in terms of not just the continuing resolution to fund the government but the debt ceiling. >> perry, do you buy this argument that he's damaged himself for the upcoming budget fights? >> i do not. i think these issues are separated. i think the syria policy was not a great two weeks. i do thin...

Exactly how they graded the iraq war until -- >> this doesn't change your view of president bush? >> i'm less concerned about style points. i'm much more concerned about getting the policy right. >> the policy is worse than the style. what could be worse than our policy? we're being scoffed at and laughed at. our country is going to hell. what could be worse than what's happening to this country? our country. >> brian: you run a huge corporation. very successfully. if you had a vice president making policy and then you had to come out and walk him back and then you told him to go make policy, ...

New late night show and want to ask you guys to weigh in quickly, favorite all-time weekend update anchor? >> chevy chase. >> you -- >> yeah, probably chevy. >> i'm veronica de la cruz. this is "first look." stay tuned. ♪ folks here in washington like to grade on style and so had we rolled out something that was very smooth and disciplined and linear they would have graded it well even if it was a disastrous policy. we know that because that's exactly how they graded the iraq war until -- >> so this doesn't change your view of president bush? >> no, what it says is that i'm less concerned ...