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To the airport. so i don't imagine anybody walking from there to the airport, but yeah, absolutely it will affect traffic. >> i was curious pause because s point it seems so close, el paso international airport, it has not put in any sort of ground stop as a result of this situation. frank and jim, if you guys can hang on for a moment, because i want to bring in msnbc analyst sean henry, who's joining us on the phone. sean, can you hear me? >> i can. >> what do you make of this situation? i know we're very early into this right now, with these reports of a possible shooting and an active shoot...

Developing situation here. in my mind, it's already so heavy, you know? there are people that are dead. there are at least 18 people that were transported to the hospital. even though it's a city of 8,000 or so, there's somebody that knows somebody that was affected directly today. >> is that what worries you? >> absolutely. again, we hear all the time about i can't believe it happened in our town or my street, now it's unfolding on this day in a place that i love dealer. >> within a minute we will join an nbc news special report. our colleague, jose diaz-balart is standing by and we'll update...

Our viewers and this is apparently right before they began evacuating the cielo vista mall area. again, we do want to say there are no reports of any shootings at cielo vista mall itself. it is all appeared to be contained to the walmart area where there are 18 casualties confirmed. again, police saying this is still an active situation. they are searching for possible multiple shooters in that area. you can see those people leaving the mall there right now. we have another reporter on the scene. let's send things over to suzy live. >> reporter: we're out here at cielo vista mall. now, it's st...

There. he heard the shots. here's what he ended up doing of the let's play it again. >> i ran with him. i went to the parking lot and i see a bunch of kids running with their parents. trying to pick up as many as i can and run out. but ain't much i could do for the kids. i just made my way out. when i got out, i guess one of the cops thought i was a shooter or something, so i had to show him my stuff. i go out. i'm here now, but it was just a whole bunch of kids up in there. i'm sorry, i'm shaking. wh theis and i tried to pick up as many as i could. >> obviously we heard about stuf across the ...

Facility, and when law enforcement goes inside, you know, and they have control of the one entry or two that they can enter, you don't really see the activity, you don't see the s.w.a.t. teams moving in their formations, you don't see their robots, don't see the dogs. when it's in an open venue, ek see all that activity, and it gives you a different feeling of what might be going on. but when it's inside a large mall like this, i can assure you, all that's going on. it's just not going on in our view so it's a little harder to deal with the time and the silence. it could be a bad situation, bu...