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Yesterday. up next one of the jurors in michael dunn's trial speaks publicly about the jury's inability to reach a decision on the top charge, first degree murder. and jordan davis's aunt tells us what kind of young man he was. also candidate for governor in texas takes heat for campaigning with ted nugent, the musician who called president obama a subhuman mongrel. more on that ahead. [ female announcer ] most of the time it's easy to know which option is better. other times, not so much. so it's good to know that mazola corn oil has 4 times more cholesterol blocking plant sterols than oliv...

Then nugent attacked this network and wolf with tweets, cnn, sol alinsky and wolf blitzer is a journalist and i'm a gay pirate from cuba. joining me now, ben ferguson and paul begala. you are both from texas where these things happened. ben, before obviously there is some humor in this but there is also, you know, something deadly serious, and that is this term subhuman mongrel. that's not like saying you dislike the president or hate his policies. subhuman mongrel is a term used by white supremacists and in nazi germany. it's racist. >> it's certainly a term that any politician would not use ...

That going to work? >> wouldn't you under the circumstances? no, it's not going to work. i think they were counting on this being two, three weeks, a month or whatever and we would move on to something else because that happens a great deal in the news business. >> right. >> but msnbc is not moving on. neither is "the wall street journal" or "the bergen record." we're going stay on it. it's not going oy way. >> and neither was bob ingle. thank you for your time tonight. coming up, some in the gop under fire for ties to a rocker who called president obama a subhuman mongrel. wait until you he...

A conversation. he called him a blood brother. it seems to me you have to acknowledge he's not just using the word washed up. he has millions of people who love what he says. that's why the term subhuman mongrel is problematic. >> it is. the people who follow it are called losers. they're voting for greg abbott. he's getting everybody who believes the racist thing. this is just really dumb. now he has associated himself with dupont. abbott knew what he was doing. i wish you could get greg abbott

Subhuman mongrel. >> mike, this is the point. someone at some point in the republican party has to draw some line. i hate playing the sort of like, you know, the theater you were talking about, you need to condemn and disown. you know, you don't have to condemn and disown ted nugent when he's saying random stuff. someone at some point has to say, this is not okay. we need to stop doing this. >> that would involve dissing people like rush limbaugh. that would involve dissing the entire culture that's built up since 2008 in the creation of the tea party. these people are consciously going for a ...