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He's stuck to the facts and the limited number of facts for his client. >> what of the accounts that the president is the subject of the probe and not a criminal target? >> you know, trump likes to be finessed. and mueller telling him that he's a subject is sort of letting those guards down. you know, come talk to me. i just want to know what you know. but we have to understand that just because you walk into an interview with these investigators as a subject doesn't mean you can't walk out as a target. and with trump's mouth, that's not really a hard thing to do because the man can't stop lyi...

That people have been asking about. nothing about his trip to moscow in 2013 with the salacious allegations in, you know, from steele, the steele dossier. so some areas appear to be of less interest, which is good for trump. but what mueller is interested in is deeply problematic for him. >> but we do know there was a subpoena for the trump organization, for documents. so that could be a separate area without donald trump -- >> you're right. and just because they're not asking about a subject doesn't mean they have no interest. >> exactly. >> but still, if you're a prosecutor and you're invest...

Which doesn't really get much press. it's very inaccessible. it takes six days to get in and get out. for me, it takes months and months and months of footwork. you have to choreograph this whole thing and then you have to get the right camera into that situation and then you have to wait for the right light and then you have to hope that your subject doesn't disappear back into the jungle. the work is being distributed widely internationally and represent ireland, my home country which is a great orn. after that the exhibition of the enclave was shown through stories. >> you can check it all ...

Businessman in the oval office who doesn't really understand -- matt kboez a difference between being target of an investigation and subject of an investigation. just because you are a subject doesn't mean you won't be indicted. >> giuliani said something else more broadly. i think it is significant or at least notable in the context which is the efforts by the president himself to pick out and call out what he believes are some bad apples inside the doj. here is what giuliani said about storm troopers. >> didn't know about the specifics of it as far as i know. he did know about the general ar...