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Is probably able to go into these hearings with a narrative that's set from the tens of thousands of documents and hundreds of witness interviews that they already have. even in these letters. and jackie was detailing them. we know what these five men would likely say if they were in front of the committee and actually complying with the subpoena request. we know why the committee wants to talk to them too. i do think, though, when you're talking about the power of the subpoena here, we talk about this from the perspective of well, if republicans retake the house in november they're going to g...

Mccarthy. let's bring in my colleague, nbc correspondent. what are you hearing? >> this news coming of mcmainy meeting with the committee. now making good on it and complying with the subpoena request. it's an example of how the committee will continue to get insight on what was going on inside the white house on january 6th even as their records request remains tied up in claims of executive privilege from the former president. so it's an example of how they're still being able to get an insight into potential talking points, conversations, speech drafts and those hours when the capitol was u...

>> well, yasmin, i think it's very important and brin is exactly right. just because you see steve bannon and other folks who defied subpoenas you are still bound by law and more than likely go to jail if you don't comply with the subpoena request from this committee or any committee so i think it's in his best interest to testify but look, you covered this, the trump era for years and you know how close rudy giuliani has been with trump going not just back to the campaign but before that so i think his testimony is extremely important. i think any sort of text messages and documents that he i...

They're enforcing subpoenas. there are real legal implications, and i imagine seeing what happened to steve bannon is weighing heavily on his mind. >> it's interesting because we have learned so much from document drops. mark meadows in particular, we learned a lot of what took place in the lead-up to january 6th and what took place in the hours on january 6th, text messages back and forth, so on and so forth, without even testimony. i spoke with barbara mcquade and she talked about the fact document drops could be even more possibly consequential even than testimony from rudy giuliani, especi...

Talk. they talk to the committee and that's where they begin the conversations about what exactly an interview like this would look like. the big thing for rudy giuliani is he believes there are a number of areas that he may be familiar with that he believes fall under executive or attorney-client privilege. keep in mind he did serve as the president's personal lawyer. however in the subpoena request, the committee specifically asks that they want to talk about his efforts to try to upend the election process. the work that he did with trump and some of the outside consultants to try to delay ...