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Stand corrected. >> here's the problem. the white house, the administration is taking the same approach that the republican leadership did after the election. oh, it was a technology problem. they're all running -- no, this is a substance problem going on. and people are paying more, getting less, and what they were promised, they're not having. and doug and i, as doug pointed out, in the face of all the washington experts, how the american people would eventually embrace this, that's not going to happen in this disaster if they follow. the republicans have an opportunity to re-raise this late...

>> yeah. i think what this latest ig report points to is the fact that the administration has looked at benghazi as largely a pr problem rather than a substance problem. if you go back to the very beginning and the administration's handling of the benghazi affair they tried to suggest to the american people that the real issue here was the security issue and was the attacks themselves. and so when the arb report came out making all of these recommendation, the administration immediately, without hesitation said, we're implementing all of these recommendations, we're doing it. and the press sor...

Without them he doesn't make it. >> bret: for all the criticism about mitt romney not having specifics, and paul ryan not having specifics if you look through the pamphlet, there is a question about specifics. about the president's plan. on entitlement reform. on a lot of different topics. >> the difference isn't which candidate has specifics. the difference is who the media pestered until they provide specifics. president never offered specifics about the medicare reform or driver of the debt. he get aceway with it, he gets a pass. we have seen the president and obama campaign and administrat...

Substance, and that goes so far because you have the president today saying who is the real mitt romney. the question is for example when mitt romney said he knows nothing about tax credits for people with jets and he said to the president i don't know what you're talking about, why not reply do you know what i'm talking about about offshore accounts and your absence of information regarding your taxes? without coming off, i guess, as being angry or some of these other notions floated around on this conversation, anne. >> yeah. i think that that obama campaign and the white house has not just ...

In a stimulus that didn't stimulate and a health care bill that wasn't declared unconstitutional and higher than he would, my experience, when people say there's a campaign problem or a pr problem, it's always a substance problem. i think i told you when i was in the the white house we once had an acrimonious meeting about war speeches waiting for the surge and everyone was complaining about the speeches we should say this and ratings would go up. my line was, you give me a better war, i'll give you better speeches. >> paul: it's hard to make a losing war sound good. >> yeah. >> paul: and hard...