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Means the people are cut out of the process. there's nobody in nebraska, there's nobody in minnesota or delaware who elected the deputy assistant administrator of plant quarantine at the usda. and yet, if the deputy assistant administrator of plant quarantine does something to make nebraskans' lives really difficult, which happens to farmers and ranchers in nebraska, who do they protest to? where do they go? how do they navigate the complexity and the thicket of all the lobbyists in this town? they can't. so what happens is they don't have any ability to speak out and to fire people through an...

Of wac. us this a fourth and final point. the solution is not to try to find judges who will be policymakers. the solution is not to try to turn the supreme court into proper constitutional order with a balance of powers. we need schoolhouse rock back, we need a congress that writes laws and then stands before the people and suffers the consequences and getting to back to our own mt. vernon, if that's what the electors decide. we need an executive branch that has a humble view of its job as enforcing the law, not trying to write laws in the congress' absence and we need a judiciary that tries ...

1990s assumed, as did the justice department, that they have substantive due process rights to a certain level of humane attention here. and then they basically say you guys work it out. and the problem is back in 1997 when this decree was entered which now has the force of law, the problem was one level. now it's like, it's geometrically a bigger issue than it was before, and we don't have the infrastructure we need to address it. >> laura: it's absurd. andy, i'm going to ask judge mckay z also but i want your take on it. it's very important. what is happening to paul manafort, trump's -- bri...

Have substantive due process rights to a certain level of humane attention here. and then they basically say you guys work it out. and the problem is, back in 1997 when this decree was entered, which now has the force of law, the problem was one level. now it's like, it's geometrically a bigger issue than it was before, and we don't have the infrastructure we need to address it. >> laura: it's absurd. andy, i'm going to ask judge mukasey also but i want your take on it. it's very important. what is happening to paul manafort, trump's -- briefly he was a campaign manager for the campaign. manaf...

Track misdemeanor immigration court rules out with confusion, tension." the court has been designed to streamline cases but it appears to be creating logjams instead. is this what we have to resort to? congress flails at solving the border crisis. joining us now, immigration attorney saman nasseri. good to have you on. here is the problem i think most people see that are outside the political world. they are watching this unfold. when we had thousands of people which we do every month crossing our borders illegally not through the normal ports of entry, just crossing into our country illegally...