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Rice because of the way he did it and that he knew earlier when he failed to act? >> yeah, i think it's even greater than a criticism. it's a rebuke. it's a repudiation. roger goodell has obviously made conduct his priority but she's -- reading the case, it almost -- the decision by judge jones, it almost is asking, why didn't you guys take this very seriously in that video came out? what were you doing? you had this hearing and, unfortunately, spent a lot of the appeal figuring out what happened in that hearing because there was no transcript, there were no notes, there was no audio recording...

It is we lapse into the language of race relationses, or to the point krystal raised, the commissions, when the first subtantive question here is, are the police getting it right? >> i think that's the problem. in too many instances, the police are not getting it right. at least in terms of how many americans view this. and so there's not only a problem with the appearance of an incorrect approach, but the reality of an incorrect approach. i think that's the real problem. that's what we need to address in terms of increasing the presence of justice. we need -- we need to make sure that these c...

About implementation of their suggestions. >> clay, what this has done has brought to the surface the deep divide that exists in many places around the country. the question is, how many of us in this nation move on and how do the people directly involved move on with their lives? darren wilson sat down with george stephanopoulos last week and george asked him moving forward, what do you fear most? here's what he said. >> are you still scared? >> of course. what's your biggest worry? >> someone hurting my family or another officer getting hurt. >> he's not going behind bars. how does he move f...

Just about the absence of violence, but it's about the presence of justice. there are a number of things we can do to increase racial justice in this country. as you mentioned, there's already meetings going on about putting body cameras on all police officers. i think that would be an excellent idea because it would help to increase the accuracy of what we know about incidence of use of force that occur. question also have a national data collection. and i think third, most significantly, we can increase the racial diversity on the part of these law enforcement agencies so that we're valuing ...