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Biden, who seems to believe what you believe. he gave a very powerful speech making many of these same points in philadelphia, but hasn't found a place for it in his daily work or outreach or activism. i asked secretary of state benson if she'd ever heard from the white house on what's happening to democracy in her state. she said, no, not once, ever. and i wonder how you push this to the top of the sort of very crowded stove top of front burner issues for this president and this white house. >> look, i think you put your finger on it in this respect, which is that for republicans, this is the...

Prosecute these parents, the investigation, that is still going on and everything that has gone done today. in other news, another trump ally pleading the fifth. what it might mean for the expresident. plus, president biden is praising the senate for getting just the bare minimum done. that's where we are with legislating these days. near total republican obstruction. and later to the program to that point there is only one party in this country actively working day in and day out to dismantle our democracy. the frustration and anger is growing over the stalled push to protect the right ...

And on the democratic side, for most people who are democrats, voting rights is very important, but there are 19 other issues that are equally or more important. it may be climate. it may be immigration. it may be economic stimulus. it may be child care tax credits. it may be minimum wage. it may be student loans. we could go on and on with the list. but democracy is just one of that set of issues, and what needs to change on the -- among democrats is that democrats need to understand that none of those seven things i just listed are going to matter at all if we lose our democracy. and none of...

Dare. democracy to them is taken for granted at this point. it's what they know. they don't have the -- all they still think about is how does it affect their pocketbook. are we getting too woke, the other things. as we sit here and we understand -- i am not making this about smarter or not smar smarter -- understanding aggression breeds for aggression. history has shown us that. what frightens me is as we go through this exercise, the percentage of this country that just doesn't care. they hear and it they don't care. they go, oh, that's politics. and they don't understand what happened in na...

Members of their conferences and caucuses. who are spreading these lies. so, before we get to the, how do we solve it? part of it is by naming it and by being comfortable with naming it. and so, that, i think, is a first step. beyond that, we have to be a lot more aggressive in realizing that democracy is not a given state of affairs. it is not a natural state of affairs, and we could as easily lose our democracy as we could keep it, and so it is time for democrats to act like that. and to act like it is as urgent as the other side is acting like it's urgent. >> so, donny deutsch was on the pr...