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It's always an anxious moment when you're trying to wait for them to return a verdict. >> oh, but it wasn't a moment. hour after hour they waited. and then, almost seven hours later -- >> the judge asks "do we have a verdict?" the jury says they do. >> we find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree. >> if david moffitt felt anything in that moment, he didn't show it. >> nothing. stone cold reaction. almost gave you chills up your spine. >> the insanity defense clearly did not work. >> the threshold that you have to reach for an insanity defense is that you don't understand the natu...

Justin back. >> but it would have been horrific if he had not been found guilty, so it did help. >> and can you imagine if that person was still free in our society? who knows who he would have attacked next, and he would have. >> i think he would have. >> i think he enjoyed -- >> the planning. >> -- the planning, and seeing if he could accomplish his task. >> verdicts are always hard, i think, because nobody ever wins in this situation. his family is obviously still in pain. the moffitt family obviously in pain, as well. so there really is no winner here. we want to hold him responsible for w...

Jury's going to do. it's always an anxious moment when you're trying to wait for them to return a verdict. >> oh, but it wasn't a moment. hour after hour, they waited. and then, almost seven hours later -- >> the judge asks "do we have a verdict?" the jury says they do. >> we find the defendant guilty of murder in the first degree. >> if david moffitt felt anything in that moment, he didn't show it. >> nothing. stone cold reaction. almost gave you chills up your spine. >> the insanity defense clearly did not work. >> the threshold that you have to reach for an insanity defense is that you don'...

David moffitt had done to create a fake i.d. in andy wegener's name. >> that's the one david presented to the school teacher, drew bahlmann. he also created a fake andy wegener e-mail address and stole that oil service receipt from andy's car. all of which made it obvious, said the prosecutors, david moffitt planned to get away with murder by framing a perfectly innocent man, andy wegener. >> what kind of a mind is behind that sort of behavior? >> very cold, very calculating. there was a tremendous amount of planning and premeditation that went into this murder. and he tried to execute it so t...

Press pool, that small group rotating among our larger group of white house press reporters, said, do you have any second thoughts, mr. president, about escalating the tariff battle with china? and he said, maybe, why not? yes, i have second thoughts about everything. notable because, of course, president trump usually projects a much stronger fight attitude about these matters, and that was certainly curious. another reporter followed up and asked again. second thoughts about escalating the trade battle with china? and he said, yes, he does. the president was also asked if other leaders here ...