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Right now. and focusing on sort of extending the problem i think is the wrong thing to focus on. if you look at president obama's economic speech, the part i like the best is his emphasis on addressing the long-term unemployment problem. he said he was going to meet with a bunch of executives at the white house soon and announce a new program. i'm quite eager to see what he says there. >> that you get a tax credit for hiring someone who has been unemployment for a certain time. >> these folks are really in trouble and the good unemployment news doesn't really affect the long-term -- >> but we ...

>> get a tax credit for hiring someone that's been unimploempl. >> these folks are really in trouble. >> we should do both, right? we should help the folks that are still in trouble. kevin is right, there is an element of the unemployment rate that is there because of the ui program. but even given that, it's been -- >> people that stay unemployed because they can get enough from unemployment. >> yes. there is a lot of research and debate. but my estimates, 10.2 3% of unemployment is due to the ui program. the net benefit of this is very significant. kevin is right. we have to work on long ter...

Training and are looking at ideas to help to create new opportunities, even through the ui program, by incentivized people who want to start up their own jobs. we have a lot of great things we haven't even had a chance to implement yet, because there have been road blocks by the congress, but the public spoke, reverend. you know that. right before christmas, they want we want people to get together. the support out there that we saw was incredible, and people called their congress people and senators. well, they need to do the same thing again, to remind these members to do that. >> jared, let...

Ideas to help to create new opportunities, even through the ui program, by incentivized people who want to start up their own jobs. we have a lot of great things we haven't even had a chance to implement yet, because there have been road blocks by the congress, but the public spoke, reverend. you know that. right before christmas, they want we want people to get together. the support out there that we saw was incredible, and people called their congress people and senators. well, they need to do the same thing again, to remind these members to do that. >> jared, let me ask you this, though. lo...