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Somebody. >> what i think would happen is if you have all this fissile material and you give it to a terrorist group and they have a series of suitcase bombs and that could terrify and paralyze the world without creating a nuclear cloud over jerusalem. it's really a deeply troubling thing. >> bill: it is. >> okay. final question. you and president bush the elder have done a lot of humanitarian work and then you and president bush the younger rally people to give millions of dollars after the haitian earthquake. i said on the air that you guys did a noble thing. i didn't believe that that money...

They would give it off to somebody. >> what i think would happen is if you have all this fissile material and you give it to a terrorist group and they have a series of suitcase bombs and that could terrify and paralyze the world without creating a nuclear cloud over jerusalem. it's really a deeply troubling thing. >> bill: it is. >> okay. final question. you and president bush the elder have done a lot of humanitarian work and then you and president bush the younger rally people to give millions of dollars after the haitian earthquake. i said on the air that you guys did a noble thing. i didn...

Many times and not have it come up disastrous. i think that is very much a danger. particularly that rivalry between india and pakistan. >> jim, the president said once again this weekend that one of the biggest concerns out there to the stability of the united states is the idea that a terrorist group would get ahold of a nuclear weapon. that said, the technology of nuclear weapons has advanced a lot. but the idea of a suitcase carrying a nuclear weapon still is a bit of mythology, isn't it? >> i think you're absolutely right, tom. there was a lot of reporting about this many years ago, after...

Years about the suitcase bombs, the backpack bombs? is that the kind of thing this loose nuclear material out there constitutes? >> right. well, they're actually talking about detonating a nuclear weapon. not the dirty bomb that has the radioactive material that can be exploded and sort of spread and carried by the wind and do some damage in an immediate area. they're talking about an explosion, a detonation. it's really quite sobering talk, and again, the justification for this unprecedented meeting in washington in the coming days, alex. >> mike viqueira at the white house. mike, thanks so m...

Possibility of suitcase bombs and backpack bombs. is that the kind of material you're talking about? >> yeah, exactly. the united states and russia have 90% of the world's nuclear material. and of course when the soviet union broke up, there was a lot of concern about what happened to the soviet nuclear stockpile. so keeping track of all of the missing pieces, things that have, you know, landed in soviet socialist -- former soviet sociali socialist republics, things like that, each country is going to face different challenges based on how they were involved in things like that. >> you know, k...