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On refugees, and i'm very proud to be just one of them working shoulder to shoulder. i'm here, but not everybody has the opportunity to come and speak with you on hardtalk. but there are so many others. and that's the point, that migrants are dreamers. migrants are people who contribute once they're given an opportunity. like me, there are so many others who would do the same. in the uk, this is a crisis and the only way to deal with it is to accept there is a crisis. there are so many people who have suffered trauma post pandemic health care colleagues in the uk and across the globe the front...

There is a crisis. there are so many people who have suffered trauma post pandemic health care colleagues in the uk and across the globe the front line, and we haven't dealt with it. and now they're putting through another crisis where the health care system here is crumbling. and i'm interested, just to sum up, i'm interested that you use the word crisis about the challenges facing the nhs in the uk, even though i'm so very aware that in your background you have seen the lack of any sort of effective health care system in afghanistan and the refugee camps of pakistan, you know what it means t...

Given an opportunity. like me, there are so many others who would do the same. in the uk, this is a crisis and the only way to deal with it is to accept there is a crisis. there are so many people who have suffered trauma post pandemic health care, colleagues in the uk and across the globe the front line, and we haven't and now they're putting through another crisis where the health care system here is crumbling. and i'm interested, just to sum up, i'm interested that you use the word crisis about the challenges facing the nhs in the uk, even though i'm so very aware that in your background yo...

The globe the front line, and we haven't dealt with it. and now they're putting through another crisis where the health care system here is crumbling. and i'm interested, just to sum up, i'm interested that you use the word crisis about the challenges facing the nhs in the uk, even though i'm so very aware that in your background you have seen the lack of any sort of effective health care system in afghanistan and the refugee camps of pakistan, you know what it means to go without health care at all, but still, as a doctor in the uk right now, you would use the word crisis, would you ? i would...

They want to go out to dinner. they want to go to disney. they want to get a plane ticket. so we're hearing people say there is malaise about the economy but in the actions we're seeing something else and that is why you're seeing leisure and hospitality add so many jobs. just a fascinating moment and the word of week is still resilience. >> absolutely. we're going to take that from you and ride it all the way. it is the only way to sum up, fascinating complicate and complex situation we find ourselves in. christine, thank you so much. joining me now, neil richson from adp. it is great to ha...