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Victims in ukraine and even some are executions of civilians, which reportedly happened before what we are now seeing in bucha. the question is, what can the west do about it? i'm joined now by rachel den berg. she is deputy director of human rights watch. thanks for being with us. human rights watch doing such important work here. but explain for our viewers the importance of documenting these atrocities. >> thank you, jake. it's really good to be with you. yes, we documented seven summary executions, one in bucha that took place march 4th and one in the village in the chernihiv region that t...

Director of human rights watch. his group has been documenting extensively how russian forces have been fighting this war and the alleged atrocities. ken roth, thank you for joining us on the show tonight. you and your organization, human rights watch, have documented human rights abuses and accusations of war crimes around the world, everywhere from syria to yemen to myanmar to the central african republic. put ukraine and what you've documented in ukraine into context. how bad is it? >> what we're seeing is widespread indiscriminate bombardment of civilian areas. this is the kind of thing we...

Executions of prisoners and other kinds of abuse of the population that was at least briefly under russian occupation in ukraine. and so that's what the world is focusing on now. but this is in addition to the ongoing indiscriminate bombardment of certain cities that the russians are trying to take. >> and in your report today, ken, human rights watch documents the case of a 31-year-old ukrainian woman in kharkiv who says she was repeatedly raped by a russian soldier. to be clear, rape is a war crime, is it not? >> absolutely. there is no question about that. and so in this case, the woman was...

Received concrete evidence of very direct war crimes. that is to say summary executions of prisoners and other kinds of abuse of the population that was at least briefly under russian occupation in ukraine. and so that's what the world is focusing on now. but this is in addition to the ongoing indiscriminate bombardment of certain cities that the russians are trying to take. >> and in your report today, ken, human rights watch documents the case of a 31-year-old ukrainian woman in kharkiv who says she was repeatedly raped by a russian soldier. to be clear, rape is a war crime, is it not? >> ab...

Stories that people are telling them about rapes, summary executions, and in bucha we're seeing the video. petro poroshenko back with us now. sir, what is your reaction to this news coming out of bucha? >> first of all, we know what's going on here because just a few hundred meters from the position of our battalion to the bucha. this is a road to bucha but two kilometers. that was the disaster. this is the way how the russian forces war in ukraine. this is how -- i to date speak with our fighters in mariupol. they say it's significantly worse in mariupol than in bucha despite the fact that it...