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To is the idea that the aide said it was impossible to meet on june 12th. technically the aide didn't use the word impossible. he made it sound impossible but he didn't say the word "impossible" so if that's what the president meant, he could have tweeted that. instead he tweeted that the source didn't exist. it's a really flagrant example of his problem with the truth. >> i doubt that if the summit doesn't end up taking place on june 12th that he'll come back and say actually my aide was correct and the way it was reported was correct. >> and i'll tell you who the aide was. the aide was matt ...

I actually think he gains from it. >> do you agree with that or is this has been a setback? >> no, no, i think he is showing that they have to show good faith and if they're not going to do that, then never mind. i think it's something that he should be proud of having done. paul: where does it go from here? restore maximum pressure if the summit doesn't come off and keep squeezing them? >> they have to keep maximum pressure. >> i hope there's plan b from secretary mattis. if the talks -- paul: military action, right. >> if the talks don't produce anything, the north koreans don't agree, the p...

Work together, but pompeo should take the lead. he's the one that knows kim jong-un. he's the one that's been there. he opened the intelligence channel. he should be given the main role. this is diplomacy, negotiations. >> if the summit does not happen, does that necessarily mean that we are headed to some sort of military action down the road? >> well, i've always said bloody nose theory early in the administration, the preemptive military strike, that's not going to work. i don't think that's a viable option, because it's going to kill millions of people, enormous tension in the peninsula, o...

Beijing with so much in play on the trade front on the economic front. >> absolutely. and you will also see i think china playing levers in the south china sea. over the last two weeks, as you know we've seen chinese bombers actually operating on these manmade islands throughout the south china sea. so china sees this as a larger game in the pacific, a long term geopolitical struggle really for dominance in that region. now, that doesn't mean we're headed toward a war with china at all. i think our interests converge more than they diverge. but over time, if we're going to solve the problem of...

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