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College. >> exactly. that's one of the things i wanted to write about. i think midland represents one industry towns across the united states where men came home from overseas after world war ii, textile towns, steeltowns, auto towns, midland happened to be an oil town, built the economy, but because it was a one industry-town we were totally dependent on the economy in midland was dependent on the price of oil. there were boom times that were terrific and then there were busts. one was when i was in college. my dad didn't build a single house for those four years i was in challenge. >> sean: ...

That's one of the ways we are so come pat age, perfectly matched. -- come patable, perfectly matched. >> sean: all the times i got to interview him, during his presidency, at different stages, i never sensed he was anything but confident. his faith seemed to be a bedrock for him. he never seemed to waiver or have any doubt. you talk about polls early, saying things were going well, you didn't pay attention to them when they were high. the country got war weary, it didn't seem to affect him from the time i spent with him even up to a few days before he left the white house. at any point did it ...

That they were coming to assist. >> sean: it is amazing story of self-lessness, bravery, courage, heroism. the award is well deserved. one of the interesting things i was going over his story that struck me, on the one hand it is an obvious life. -- it is an ordinary life. he grew up where i grew up on long island. he loved to read he was an all-american kid. >> like a lot of americans out there, the people you never really hear about. those are the people. we were just a regular family. raising our children not to hate people. not to strap bombs on their chest and blow up innocence. he was ta...

Courage, heroism. the award is well deserved. one of the interesting things i was going over his story that struck me, on the one hand it is an obvious life. -- it is an ordinary life. he grew up where i grew up on long island. he loved to read he was an all-american kid. >> like a lot of americans out there, the people you never really hear about. those are the people. we were just a regular family. raising our children not to hate people. not to strap bombs on their chest and blow up innocence. he was taught to take care of others. that's the american way. you help people who are under privi...

Because of their religion. so, i could never imagine an american family saying we hate those people no matter who they are. so strap a bomb on your chest and blow up innocent people to make a point. >> sean: pure evil. >> as evil as you can get. >> sean: i wrote a book in 2004, one of the points i tried make is good people have a very hard time comprehending that evil exists. the last 100 years of human history has proven nazi germany, you know the imperial japan, fascism, communism, now terrorism over 100 million souls lost for liberty and freedom against tyranny. >> i have difficulty compreh...