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Is this going to change the way the iraqi forces and u.s. coalition, u.s.-led coalition deals with isis in iraq when you look at that area that we're talking about? >> well, like we talked about before iraq is where they get their center of gravity from. they're pushening up supplies pushing up more people. right now because they own ramadi the capital, they have a good clunk of fallujah t. big piece right now which is critical is this whole refugee aspect that has fallen. you got a quarter million people. they're trying to bail out of ramadi going into fallujah bypass that with isis. >> they ...

Who lives in yemen joins us. you can talk about what's happening on the ground. earlier we heard white house press secretary josh earnst annot sure if this is isis. now we know it is isis. sunni vs. shia, can you tell us what's happening on the ground between these jihadi factions? >> basically isis wants to outdo al qaeda. they want to be seen in the jihadist community as at the forefront, at the vanguard of attacks and carnage. they are able to it do this with the latest attack in yemen. remember, the attack had about 137 casualties, the largest al qaeda attack in yemen had about 52 casualti...

Predicted at the end of the cold war that the real conflicts coming up would be between peoples and tribes and races and cultures rather than ideologies like communism and capitalism. i think they are right. all over the world we see countries breaking down, breaking apart. sue began just broke in half. ethiopia broke in half. see all the troubles in kenya. you see iraq. sunni vs. she a kurd vs. arab. muslim vs. christian. the anti-christian pandemic. in the middle east and everything. it is frightening but this is what is happening to the world it is all breaking down. even in europe it's mor...

Moral vulcanization and economic vulcanization of america is that a good analysis? >> that is excellent analysis. let me say also, i predict and this is where you get into touchy. you have got the chapter on when white america. >> sean: saving that for the next segment. >> i mean, the vulcanization that's true and as we talked today, i have a chapter in there of 18,000 wortdz, it's called et nic nationalism and now it's tribal. predicted at the end of the cold war that the real conflicts coming up would be between peoples and tribes and races and cultures rather than ideologies like communism ...

Who lives in yemen joins us. you can talk about what's happening on the ground. earlier we heard white house press secretary josh earnst annot sure if this is isis. now we know it is isis. sunni vs. shia, can you tell us what's happening on the ground between these jihadi factions? >> basically isis wants to outdo al qaeda. they want to be seen in the jihadist community as at the forefront, at the vanguard of attacks and carnage. they are able to it do this with the latest attack in yemen. remember, the attack had about 137 casualties, the largest al qaeda attack in yemen had about 52 casualti...