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Come in. you can't be their buddy tomorrow and then be hard on them the day afterwards. you've got to stick to your guns and just hold true to what you believe in and just do your job. you don't have to be super cop. you just have to do your job. >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing all right. >> everything going good? >> yeah. >> all right. >> lieutenant edward howard currently runs "c" cell house. >> "c" cell house is the largest cell house in the state of indiana, second largest in the nation. we have 386 offenders here. i've been here 13 years. i spent half of my time in this cell house from...

That you have seen that plan in writing yet? >> of course not. if you don't follow up you do look weak. >> let's get back to the interwould you have cbs. he does the interview with cbs. obviously everybody is wanting to know about ukraine and putin and all of this. and then, with all due respect to major garrett and to president obama, if i had been sitting there across from him last night, do you think that that would have happened? >> i think you would have kept pressing. >> that's right. >> the super bowl went on for a little bit. >> it would have been more than pressing him. it would have ...

You've got to stick to your guns and just hold true to what you believe in and just do your job. you don't have to be super cop. you just have to do your job. >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing all right. >> everything going good? >> yeah. >> all right. >> lieutenant edward howard currently runs "c" cell house. >> "c" cell house is the largest cell house in the state of indiana, second largest in the nation. we have 386 offenders here. i've been here 13 years. i spent half of my time in this cell house from an officer to a sergeant to a lieutenant and i've always said if you could run this cel...

Lick of respect unless we respect them first. we treat them like men. we treat them like human beings. we don't talk down to them. i go out of my way not to know what particular crime they're in here for because i don't want to be judgmental. >> most correctional officers agree that maintaining authority without provoking hostility is a delicate balancing act. >> you have to pick a line, draw it in the sand and stick to it. you can't vary every day you come in. you can't be their buddy tomorrow and then be hard on them the day afterwards. you've got to stick to your guns and just hold true to ...

Challenge. let's talk about that challenge interview. the state said to you, george zimmerman knew those video cameras were not working so aha, it wasn't a bluff. it was, again, super cop, knowing everything, and just deciding i can get away with this. really? really? so when chris sarino -- this used to be a problem -- for a second. chris sarino -- i lost my train of thought. eyen going to catch up in just a second. he had said the inconsistencies