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Mirror up, take a good long look at itself and when we do what do you think we would see? >> i think in the old days the parties would choose the candidates at the convention and they tried to pick somebody they knew could be a consensus leader. once the primaries came in 1912 and teddy roosevelt wanted to beat taft, we had primaries, primaries are the main reason. you can't go back when you're in a democracy, the more people that vote the better, but in the early days i worry people are not paying attention. there's so many people running, they have a thought about it and party leaders have n...
So let's be honest, the idea of me being excited to go to a rally is not how i'm going to vote. >> van makes a point, it's much better entertainment at a trump rally because -- >> because he's crazy. >> no, because he's intelligent and humorous. but this idea that oh, because he has large rallies, that doesn't translate into votes, that's mathematically untrue. if we look at the primaries and hard numbers, he got more votes than any republican candidate in the history of the process. >> bernie sanders. bernie sanders had massive rallies and lost. >> bernie sanders never had a chance thanks to ...
Imagine how much -- well, how much tougher it could possibly get. >> if you look at bill clinton are, far worse, mine are words and his was action. >> he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. >> because bernie sanders, between super delegates and debora wasserman schultz, he never had a chance. and i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil. >> okay, donald, i know you're into big diversion tonight. anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it's exploding and the way rep...
After last night, tough to imagine how much -- well, how much tougher it could possibly get. >> if you look at bill clinton are, far worse, mine are words and his was action. >> he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. >> because bernie sanders, between super delegates and debora wasserman schultz, he never had a chance. and i was so surprised to see him sign on with the devil. >> okay, donald, i know you're into big diversion tonight. anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it'...