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Because rich are leaving. >> dana: last week in forbes.com there was ten or 11 death spiral states. you don't want a house and can't get a job and ones saddled with the pension debt from the public sector unions. we had a big fight in wisconsin over this. what we were we dealing with at the start of school? chicago teachers union when school was starting. what happened to schoolhouse rock? those were video where you could learn something. >> greg: you watch it, don't you? >> dana: i love them. at halloween i went as bill on capitol hill. great costume. >> kimberly: have a good destiny. >> dana...

It's not caused by the rich, because rich are leaving. >> dana: last week in forbes.com there was ten or 11 death spiral states. you don't want a house and can't get a job and ones saddled with the pension debt from the public sector unions. we had a big fight in wisconsin over this. what we were we dealing with at the start of school? chicago teachers union when school was starting. what happened to schoolhouse rock? those were video where you could learn something. >> greg: you watch it, don't you? >> dana: i love them. at halloween i went as bill on capitol hill. great costume. >> kimberly:...